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The mogul and rapper sits down with Elliott Wilson and Brian “B.Dot” Miller to discuss his monumental album.

“What we said on the album allowed people to open up,” Jay-Z says of 4:44. The rapper’s thirteenth studio effort has been one of the biggest of 2017 in regards to personal revelation and the ability to make others reveal inward. The Rap Radar Podcast boys of Elliott Wilson and Brian B.Dot Miller headed out to Malibu to sit with Hov to get his thoughts on the album and more.

In regards to the album being the shortest of his career, Hov made a concession. “This album has a lot of topics and that’s why it had to be so short and condensed,” Hov said. “It’s so dense with subject matter if it was longer you wouldn’t be able to take it, it would wear you out.”

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According to Hov, the entire process began in January this year when No I.D. and he recorded two records, “Kill Jay-Z” and “The Story Of O.J.” When initially pitching the idea to him, No I.D. made it quite clear to Hov. “I got your next Blueprint.”

The two-part interview has been sliced into hour-long conversations breaking down Tidal rumors of “cheating the system” and more. Hov himself stated that the third verse of “Smile” was a flex, a proving moment to remind people that he could still rap. A few records such as “Black Gold” and “Part Two” got left on the cutting room floor. He even reveals to the world that he bought three pairs of Big Baller Brand’s ZO2 sneakers. In other words, Hov is out here for the little guy.

“Everything I discuss on the album … you could go on for days discussing that,” he says. “I didn’t want the album to get so long that we miss out on what’s important.”

On Misconceptions Of “The Story Of O.J.”

“No, I don’t believe Jewish people own everything. Because I own a couple things, you know? But it’s about coming from where we once were and doing something new. We can’t keep building Snapchat, we can’t keep building Instagram and then run to them and say, ‘Can I get a marketing deal?’ I’m telling people, I’ve done dumb shit. I’m telling people you can do dumb shit but learn from me. So you don’t get caught in the same situations I was caught up in. I’ve been doing this not just on record but behind the scenes. All the information I have is for everyone.”

On Tidal

“I’ll never do that press conference again. I never lied to the culture about my intentions. I went out and did it.”

On Spirituality And Therapy

“Music has always been my therapy but I’ve been doing therapy for about four years now. Spiritually has always been big with me. What happens is, it informs who I am today. Because something about him wasn’t right. And I said, ‘People in religion are hypocrites.’ And I sought out religion. So I got a bit of … oh, I’m a spiritual person. I don’t know everything that’s out there and I’m fine with that. I know God exists and I’m cool with that. Because it was some trauma there, it led me to ask the question.”

“When I first went to therapy, it was a probation thing. And I hated it. Cause the lady was giving me tea and shit and I just watched Get Out and I was like, ‘Oh shit! She did something to me! She had me fucked up!’ I always left there feeling like I was separated. I wasn’t ready for that level of getting to know yourself. It’s easy to get to know other people. Get to know yourself and really ask yourself the question you don’t wanna hear: what role did you play in the things you’ve done? It’s easy to say, “Everybody is doing this to me.”

On Kanye

“Think about how I even got to that point. It’s not even about Kanye, it really isn’t. His name is there because it’s honest and it’s truthful of what happened. The whole point is, ‘You got hurt because this person was talking about you on stage.’ What really hurt me was, you can’t bring my wife and my kids into it.”

Like, Kanye is my little brother. He’s talked about me a hundred times, he even made a song called “Big Brother.” We’ve gotten past bigger issues. But you brought my family into it, now it’s a problem with me. That’s a real real problem. And you know it’s a problem because me and him would have been talked about it, been resolved our issues. And he knows he crossed the line, he knows. And I know he knows. Cause we’ve never let this much space go between one of our disagreements and we’ve had many. That’s just who we are.”

“He’s an honest person and he’s wrong a lot of times. But, the point is — I was getting to a point where, ‘You got hurt by that.’ You can’t get diss somebody by saying you got hurt. That’s the softest diss of all-time. What are you talking about, you sucka ass n*gga? You soft as shit! It’s not about a Kanye diss, I’m talking about me. When I say, “you dropped out of school, you lost your principals,” I’m not talking about Kanye, I’m talking about me. The whole thing. Don’t talk about anyone’s kid on stage. Our children are already in this place where they’re affected by our celebrity. Don’t go and do something that’ll allow people to pit us against each other. Don’t do that.”

Watch part-one of the interview below.