Mike Tyson & Earl Sweatshirt have a few things in common. The Brooklyn kid was arguably the most recognizable face on the planet in his 20s and Sweatshirt had an entire movement dedicated to his freedom from Samoa. Both have had their peaks and valleys as celebrities so it comes as no surprise that when the two met for a feature for biannual magazine Humanity, they hit it off.

Tyson often interjects during the interview, offering Earl advice as the Odd Future rapper discusses going to boarding school at the peak of Odd Future’s success, dealing with the pressures of fame and trying to find a direct parallel to Tyson, who at 20 became the youngest heavyweight champion in history.

“I was just… way more obsessed with preserving the friendship,” Earl says of his time in Samoa while watching Odd Future blow up. Tyson decides the best course of action is to let Sweatshirt know that some friends, even our best ones may hurt more than others. “You know, sometimes, the people we invest the most time in disappoint us the most,” he says.

The entire conversation is revealing to say the least. When Sweatshirt quizzes Tyson about fame and success, the ex-heayweight champ pulls no punches, especially in regards to his children maybe stepping in the ring. Since Tyson came from desperation as Sweatshirt alludes to — Tyson can’t see the same for his kids.

“I don’t expect my kids to be “fighters”; my kids never lived in a condemned building with their family,” Tyson says. “Most of them are at Ivy League schools, their mothers are good mothers, you know, they do good stuff with them.”

The entire interview is amazing. Read it in full here.